Is this the smoking gun? You decide. Read more about the possible forgery here.
April 28, 2011 at 10:24 am
Well… I don’t want to be a “nutter” or anything… but it was very coincidental to me that a day after a poll by USA Today and Gallup came out saying 62% of the country questions Obama’s birth… this magically appears. After 3 years in over $2 million in legal fees The Donald brought this to an end eh?
Also, it was coincidential that I happened to get into a discussion with some of my friends about the State Department now wanting prenatal and maternal information to even get a passport. My response when I saw that is, “great the Federal government wants to know about my mother so I can travel but the American people get to know nothing about Obama and he is President” and whala… the next day this is released.
Needless to say, there has been additional questions raised on everything from the use of “African” as opposed to “Negro” as the race (which I have confirmed was not the general, customary race listing in 1961), then we have the whole business with the twins who were born a day after Obama have a birth certificate number lower than his. Let us not forget either the matter of his CT numbered Social Security number. One more thing, what about the fact that earlier this year Tim Adams of Hawaii officialdom and even governor Ambercrombie has said the birth certificate does not exist, suddenly it does. Just great. What about those other Hawaii records officials who have said everything from “fire destroyed his birth certificate” to it was shredded? Boy, people have very short memories.
I have seen none of this debunked in any substantive way… well, I have seen none of this debunked at all. It is just ignored and people then go immediately to name calling instead of having a rational discussion in attempts to find facts.
Oh yeah… then there is still the whole matter of his Indonesian citizenship status and whether or not he is now, or ever was a dual citizen. Many friends of mine have always said the birth certificate is a red herring and the real issue is his Indonesian citizenship status.
May 13, 2011 at 2:14 pm
All that matters is: Is Barack Hussein Obama the natural child of Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama)?
Was she, at the time of his birth, a citizen or national of the United States of America?
If both are “yes,” it doesn’t matter where the birth took place. All that “natural born” means is that the individual was a United States citizen/national at the time of his/her birth, not a naturalized citizen. It doesn’t mean that the individual had to be born within the territorial boundaries of the USA.
US citizen/national mothers give birth all over the world. Their children are US citizens and remain so for life UNLESS they are or become citizens of another recognized nation AND formally repudiate their US citizenship.
Such children normally will have birth certificates from the civil jurisdiction where they are born. When they return to the USA they should bring officially certified copies of their foreign birth certificates. They can also go to a US embassy to get their papers done. If they did not get birth certificates, there are State Department procedures for obtaining them.
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